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Oh I see so many problems and possibilities with this hmm

Larry, I have already scoped out two cheaters and someone who was supposed to be home sick in a cell shot at a sporting event (LOL). This is a disaster just waiting for the right virtual match up to destroy a marriage or job promotion...

I am assuming that they are only sharing "wall" info and not messaging. ??? This is dangerous as it is, but could be so much worse!

Hi Carolyn... the only thing that is absolutely safe anymore is not to turn on your PC.  Of course, that will create its own set of life challenges... and a certain degree of ridicule!  :-)

Oh my gosh, one more thing to worry about with facebook. Geez. Yes, I can see the potential problems with that feature.

Ah, Facebook ~ a blessing & a curse!

I had an agent say they couldn't make a really important meeting because they were already scheduled with a client for the day.  Same agent then went on to post foursquare check-ins all over facebook to all the restaurants, hiking, shopping he was doing with his girlfriend.

Lindsey, messaging is private. I shudder at the thought of them ever tweaking our direct messages.

Steve, I blip or jango music over there with a post or two here and there. I stopped playing most of the games and really miss the mindless bliss of having my peeps constantly at hand. Now I pop in an out to direct message people and briefly answer comments left for me. I spend more time deleting requests than playing Mafia Wars. I hate getting out of groups I did not ask to be in an should not have to opt out of something each time I log in. I like my band and merch apps, love my friends, so I am staying. :-)

Carla, that feature is going to get the drama started...

Hillary, some people are just clueless to the fact trivial stuff gets time stamped when posted to walls (LOL).

Who knew? I've heard of lenders and the IRS using it to check that people's tales of woe are true...

"Question: Are you people trying to destroy your brand? I really like you so START THINKING ABOUT WHAT NEW PRIVACY COMPLAINTS YOU MAY BE CREATING before you launch links that remind people what their last stupid social media argument was about or have them discover that the dumb joke X shared about the boss as a forgotten crass comment on Y's page is now a captured PDF/JPEG screen saver created by a moronic third party in common..."

I have figure out (clip + paste aka copy + paste) I needed to have a referencepoint to allow my clueless self some point of reference in order to complete my redundancy....

..... I may need some sleep too... Actually I think I go to FB and Log-In... I really nave NO IDEA what a WALL IS... FB-WALL ~ I know of other Walls... Brick Wall, Wailing Wall, Stone Wall, Wall of Words, Wall Wall Wall ................

Yes... It is true. We all have at lest one stupid friend and one pain in the a$$ relative...  

Sorry, C Tann-Starr ~ Like the highlighted part of YOUR statement...

I went and re-blipped your A-R post before Even reading it... YUP... Like A Real Moron.... I never said .................. "I, Mott - am the sharpest tool in the shed" .............

Its OK for Me to call myself an idiot.... others need my express consent and permission.

Scary thought process they have there at FaceBook. Seems like we should at least hear about these things BEFORE they spring them on us. Yikes.

I didn't even notice this. FB keeps making changes. What else is new? lol.

I am over here messing around in my social media accounts discovering fascinating things about the people I know who also know my acquaintances. That feature has actually got me commenting less on the FB walls. I'm sending more direct messages now. Hmm... 

Michelle, almost a third of the people I am friends with are active law enforcement (ROTFL).

LOL @ Mott. That feature is made for TV drama (LOL).

Randy, I was all over my e-mail trying to figure out how I missed this missive from October 28th... Wall to Wall has been replaced with See Friendship... Now that it has been implemented we are gonna have to figure out if we like having mutual friends stalk each other while checking in on us (LMAO).

Jackie, they are working hard over there... driving us crazy, yeah - but working really hard (LOL). ;-)

I hadn't noticed this at all!  I just "unfriended" the creepy agent that emailed my client, and now I can't check him out.  While I think this is a bad idea, it has given me the ability to check what contact other agents are having with my clients.  I wish I had read this before "unfriending" the creep.  Now...off to investigage who else is playing in my sandbox....LOL

Lina, FB is an amazing social media toy. My electronic sandbox is off the hook (LOL). ;-) 

FB is a very scary place on the personal level...unless you are completely sure who your "friend" is.

Karen, some of my "friends" are more scary than my "acquaintances" (in my case add a couple of relatives too - LOL). ;-)

Facebook never seemed to have a good interface or ideas. They need to have more people who use it contribute to the upgrades. I don't think their success was because of them as much as people liked the idea of connecting with friends and family. So when they try and make stuff it fails.

Ross, I would probably trade "fail" for "periodically disappoints." I do have a lot of fun there (when they are not pissing me off - LOL). :-) 

C...

I had no idea about all of this data tracking. I'm a little frightened by it!

Richard, it can be disconcerting. Especially if you're a wee bit flippant and facetious like I can be. Sometimes you don't remember what triggered a remark when people delete their side and you are staring at your side of a partial conversation... 

It is a blessing and a curse sometimes.  I cannot keep up with all the new "features" not necessarily "benefits" on FB.  Thanks for the heads up!

Management everywhere just started salivating at the thought of "catching" their minions doing/saying things that they're not supposed to be doing.

C- I did not even have the time to notice this change, thanks for pointing it out.

One would think that since Facebook has been getting so much slack for it's privacy changes, the people over there that think these things up would think them OUT first. Darn, now I need to go check my privacy settings all over again. Hopefully my privacy settings will cover this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

Now I'm concerned that I have missed other potential uncool "buttons". Keep us posted. HUH , on here , not on FB

This is way too much .... I think FB needs to notify folks about these things ahead of time and allow folks to opt out.   Better yet, they simply should not be collecting this type of information!  I think the public has spoken!

I love FB because I can keep in touch with people that I don't always have time to call but it's definitely a little scary. Sometimes there's just way too much information being given out.

It just goes to show you...never say anything online that you wouldn't want read in the newspaper! Or the National Enquirer. LOL

Just set all your visibility/privacy settings to friends only or only me. Case closed.

I am not seeing that on my facebook profile...does it only show up if you have settings other than friends only?

C, what a pain in the ass. You would think as Facebook grows and grows they would behave more responsibly. Who runs it anyway? Some 19 year old kid?

Yikes...

Chronological investigation sounds like snooping Carolyn. I am still amazed people have time to delve into all this but the FB weenies that designed this are ALWAYS changing it.

It is a job to keep up on all the new quirks on all the social media sites -- things change all the time -- thanks for the point out on this one.

OK, I'm not great with this stuff on FB because they keep changing it just as I learn it.

But....I can't find this link you are talking about.  Where exactly is it?

I have always been a little reluctant to post much on Facebook (or any social site) because it can never be erased completely.  Think before posting.....what if (insert name) were to read this 5 years from now!!

I wasn't aware of the link you refered to......just something else to scare me away from Facebook!

Hmmm - this is a bit scary.  I haven't put much on FB - because everyone has a friend of a friend of a friend, it seems anyone can get into your wall....

Yikes...  I am going to check it out right now....

I had no idea this was part of FB and the more I see of what these folks are doing, the mor eI wonder who's minding the store?  Thanks for your post!

Thank you for telling me what that link meant.  For some reason, I just saw it & ignored it.  I'm still a little scared of the button.  Love this blog.  great & funny information :)

 

Oh the web of information is only going to get more entangled as time goes on!  You should check out http://socialmention.com to see how your name (or someone else's) is mentioned across social media platforms.  That is an eye opener!

Now I have to log on to fb and make sure my setting are OK.  Since I use my iPhone primarily, the app is limited and I cant check and change settings so I tend to forget to go to the website and look things over once in a while.

I just blogged yesterday about friending on facebook      http://activerain.com/blogsview/1956595/friend-request-waiting      

Thanks for bringing this to our attention

Maybe it's a good thing I'm not doing anything much on FB.  It is just too much...

FB has already created problems for two of my friends who are long married were befriended by old beaus from the past who don't even live in the same part of the country.  What seems like harmless fun to one spouse can seem like betrayal to the other.   No physical contact, no phone conversations, just a little cybercontact and yet it's like a hand grenade thrown into some marriages.  I think FB has the potential to cause more problems than any other social media.  You can't live without it, but you have to think before you post on it and think about who you befriend in terms of how others perceive your posts and your choice of friends. 

I think one of my kids has the right idea - she only friends a very small number of people who she knows well and that doesn't include me or any other adults.  Or maybe my husband has an even better idea - he doesn't go on Facebook at all.

I like Jimmy Kimmel's idea that before you add someone as a friend you should ask yourself one question...would I loan them $50.00?  I am cleaning house on and unfriending many peeps and resetting my page to friends only, today!

Big brother sees everything and we all live in glass houses, so what? Being sooooo guarded as to not be yourself or worse paranoid is better? I hate to tell everyone, nobody reeeeally cares or is watching your every move but it is true. And it is because the world does not revolve around us and your facebook page. The only thing this OCD feeds is head shrinks and chicken little prey...

Could you see stuff of others if they in fact had not clicked on the "see friendship" button?

Ugh, just another thing to worry about on Facebook...  I had no idea that was going on. thanks!

Facebook is so big and has so much of our information that it is definitely scary. 

They are definitely crating things that the average (or normal) person would not want or need.

They are going to be a great stalker tool though.... lovely.

I am getting to the point I don't want to post some things (and be my transparent self lol) because I unfriended long lost 'family members'....for a reason. So they don't see what's going on. They can click on another family member who is friends with them and click on their friend list and see all my comments anyway.

 

Success is simple. Do what's right, the right way, at the right time.

Do this and your facebook will not be a problem.

I've always said, "don't say anything you don't want repeated" and now that goes double for facebook!

Carolyn, Great information. One needs to be careful of what they are posting on face book. It will still there years down the road.

Very complicated!  I guess the younger generation figures this out better.

Dear Carolyn,

It is a brave new world, where three friends can keep a secret, if two of them are dead and the other does not post on Facebook. Everything else is out there to be discovered, even years later, when our poor brains have long forgotten all about it. Interesting times for sure.

This is really scary from the standpoint of stalking - for children. You can teach your own kids not to say where they live or go to school, but you can't teach all their friends at the same time.

Funny to see this today, because I just read a "Stupidest criminal of the week" report about a guy who had been a fugitive since 1998. The cops had been watching him on Facebook and when he mentioned how cold it was, one of them (posing as a friend) said "Oh, where do you live that it's so cold." He answered that question and now he's back in jail.

As for saying stupid things. No one should ever write anything - in a letter, in an email, and especially on something like Facebook - that it isn't OK for the entire world to see.

And when you think about it, it's also a good idea not to say things you don't want repeated.

C - I'm not surprised by this one bit.  Facebook keeps changing the rules.  I stopped using fb because of an experience I have had.  To @David #49 only people who don't know us don't care, but people in our world, with good or bad intentions, do and that can be the beginning for trouble.

You lost me with the article.  I hate facebook.  For me it is a giant address book full of long lost friends and relatives.  I guess the internet is keeping people honest.

Facebook is like good and evil rolled into one... and I agree with you they need to quit inventing these things and not giving you choices.. if you want to have a frienddhip button it should be a choice not a mandate.. great post! thank you

Yes check your control settings. You must remember it is a public forum. You can be held legally liable for what you post. I have very limited friends on FB. I believe if you use it for business, use it only for business and be careful. The same with Activerain. We want to share, but it to can leave you fonder-able to lawsuits. Anything that is public must be dealt with cautiously. This is the world we created and voted for intentionally or with our silence.

There is away to block your pics from being scene on the walls of other people. Under privacy I have friends only all the way down. If that is not enough, I too will be raising some noise too!

Sylvia

Bee's Graphic Design of Corona CA

You have to be very diligent to proct your privacy today.  Be aware that the terms of service of most websites are constantly changing. According to most terms of service it is your responsibility to check their website for any changes so they never have to notify you.

I like your style C.  Thanks for calling them out.  While it is a great tool you need to be careful.

In the end, Facebook's main goal is not to help you get clients or make friends and keep in touch with them.  Their goal is to get every person on the planet to log onto their website and use it often.  They are doing a good job of it obviously, but we all need to be careful the way you are.

Thanks!

FB is a gift and a curse, like a lot of technology.  I guess us humans need to use more discretion on how we use it and not let it control us.

 

Leanna

Personally, I think the whole FB thing is a major invasion of privacy, but by the same token it sure is nice to reconnect with shirt tail family and long lost friends!  If I were the kind of person to worry about a world takeover (such as in the movie Red Dawn), I'd have to say the best way to track down every person that might resist would be to confiscate the database of a site like Facebook...

Yet, I'm still amazed at how some people think they can set their privacy settings to "private."  There really is NO such thing on the internet.  Sometimes your worst enemies come in the ole sheep's clothing thing, and it is WAY easy to take a screen shot of something that's been published on FB...

By the same token, one shouldn't blame FB for any consequences of what's been published, as in talking about bad behavior, venting about your crazy boss, whatever.  It's a little like the old saying, "in vino veritas" meaning you probably will say what's really on your mind when you've had a little bit too much wine.  Or... if it quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck...  How you "behave" on FB is quite likely just exactly who you really are, and FB is just the messenger.  So if one carries on an illicit affair on FB, then they are not only a dishonest person, they're pretty stupid on top of it.  It's not FB's fault.

Having rambled on like I tend to do, the bottom line in my opinion is that social sites like FB SHOULD tend to cause people to take a good look at just who the heck they are, and possibly give them a pretty good reason to upgrade themselves a bit.  I'm sure I'm being unrealistic.  But it is a hope.  :-)

Interesting & I will have to check this out when I have more time as right now, just too busy except for occasional updates which are easier via Hootsuite

Carolyn:

Yes we do have to be careful with Facebook.  I am cautious about anything I put on facebook. 

Evelyn Kennedy, Gallagher & Lindsey, Inc. REALTORS

Has anyone contacted FB to let them know the implications of this?  I've read through several of the comments and notice the same consensus, nobody likes it, but I didn't see any solutions.  If we make a group effort by all contacting FB that might make the difference in them allowing this to go on or to remove this from the system.  Just a thought.  To your success!

Great post! I think that if someone is nervous about people "seeing" the friendship, they should just block their wall from the people that may not need to see it.  I absolutely love all of the privacy control that facebook allows you to have. 

Carolyn,

This has the potential for major fall out among people.

You have to go into this with the frame of mind that anything you post can be used against you.  If you are OK with it then post away.  It is not like we can claim that we didn't know the information was out there when we are the ones posting our personal stuff for the world to see.

I also do not see this elusive friendship link.... should it be near the like button, mabye there is something that is turned on in yours and your friends settings.....

http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/10/28/friendship-pages-mutual-content/

This explains it a little better

Good thread.  Most of the important points have been made.  FB has to keep the designers employed by thinking up new stuff that monetizes the site.  The company is infested with unconsciencable weenies (as Gary pointed out above).  FB doesn't listen, and FB doesn't care.  What is writ on FB is writ forever.  I worry about private messages, in spite of what FB guarantees.  I make these comments as a long-time FB user. 

Interesting to say the least.  Closed my account down months ago.  My sister also had an issue with Hacking with Porno going to her grandchildren.

She shut hers down immediately too.

Thanks for the post.

Excellent post as it is a timely reminder to treat a post to FB as something that can/will be public in some way, regardless of your privacy settings. The classic saying"think before you speak" can be updated as"think before you post"!

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C-thanks for blogging about FB, I have been meaning to close my account since I heard about this feature, so thanks again for reminding me. 

 

I am very choosy as to who I "friend".  On top of that, I occassionally go through and look at all my friendships again so in case I've had a status change with one of them.  I do have a couple of "friends" that I'm not real close to, so any time I write something, I think, "Is this anything that I would tell everybody?"  That way you are safe.

Very Interesting.  I had no idea!  I love reading about everyone's life but don't say much about mine.  In the future, I'll be even more careful, but will not close my account.  I do think face book should announce these things.

 

 

 

We are leaving "ourselves" open for the information that we put out there for everyone to see. I just say, let's educate people to limit the information.

This is not good!  I'm sure they thought it would be cool, but really!!!!! Thanks for the heads up, Carolyn!

Carolyn,

Thanks for the tip. As a long time FBer [with 4 profiles] I keep it old-school / Jersey style ... dont write, record or post anything that isn't meant for the world to hear ! Though I did receive a disturbing letter to my Home ... from something I posted HERE on ActiveRain !!

Have a great day,

Steven Zimmerman Realtor ABR GRI / FB @ Steven.Zimmerman 

AMEN!  I hope that says it all Carolyn.  Thanks for the insightful post ~ Brad

FaceBook can be a very scary place.  You'd think sooner or later they'd figure that privacy might be an issue to some people.

FB may soon become a historical example of a social networking company that comits social suicide. More is NOT always better.

Wow when will they stop?

Wow, very scary! Thanks for the great post!

I guess I don't really get it yet- but that's why I keep my business and personal FB seperate...

C-

It is amazing the things that people can come up with. Facebook is a wonderful yet scary place all at the same time. Have a great day and thanks for this post. I was thinking the same things virtually when I was checking it out the other day.

Me too!

I missed it too!

Has anyone ever gotten a lead directly from Facebook?

I apologize, friends, but this isn't that scary.  After all, the information was already there.  Sure, it takes less time to uncover it with the tool, but it was all already publicly available.

If you don't want to let someone know something, then the post can be restricted to certain people.  If that's too much hassle, then don't post!

The idea of privacy went out the window in 1994 when Netscape introduced the browser.  And guess what? It's okay.  We're still alive.  We still have a civilized society, and in fact, the lower level of privacy has helped make scumbags more visible.

This will actually help spouses that have cheating partners, and will help parents know about their children's activities.

As agents, we live a very public life.  In fact, almost everyone does.  I think because we surf the internet from our homes that we feel we have a degree of anonymity...after all, we're at home, and that means no one is watching, right?

Nope.  Every site we go to is logged by our Internet Service Provider.  The sites we visit often log our own IP address.  Facebook is simply making what's already available to select tech experts available to everyone.

I have to pose the question: What are you afraid of people finding out?  If it's something you shouldn't be doing, then you shouldn't be doing it, right?  If it's something you want secret like a wedding proposal, then don't post it anywhere on the Internet. :)

WayWard Child...

This is going to have a domino effect. It'll go down much like Google Buzz did. Lawsuit followed by a dead buzz :)

And you know, it's not a feature we can opt out of. The best any of us can do is keep everything friends only. I have other thoughts, and ideas, but they'll make great Blog Fodder :)

TLW...ROAR!

 

I'm still trying to figure out all the "how to's" and ramifications of Facebook. You bring up some scary points to consider. I must learn more. Thanks for the warning.

Wordy C, I've never been a big FB fan, friend or whatever...  It's there and I do enjoy staying in touch with family & friends.  But I do shutter when I read what some folks put on the Face as TLW calls it.  Just not much common sense in doing so in my mind.  But oh well, I must be wrong with all the millions of users it has!  Thanks for the heads up.

I think the key to a decent FB experience is having decent friends and acquaintances. If you have family or personal drama going on it would be wise to think twice about what gets revealed in social media accounts.

I have been auditing all of my accounts for the last several days trying to figure out who stays and who goes. Those can be difficult decisions to make when you care about people but not their lax security habits...

Hey Mike.. So, this isn't really about a gift I reeicved, but a gift for my brother that I actually witnessed him open.. This was about 7 years ago My middle brother had just opened his big gift and it was an authentic Team Canada hockey jersey.. he was stoked and so was my younger brother.. they were oohing and ahhing over, checking out all the details.. so then my youngest brother goes to open his gift it wasn't his big one, but still, he was pretty stoked, I think he rips back the paper and it's a juggling set with a how-to book hahahahah!! The look on his face just fell to the floor He had reeicved his big gift earlier in the fall (new camping and outdoor gear and he needed for his high school back packing trip).. I think he was expecting a little but more to his taste for his smaller gift than a juggling set anyway, he didn't really want to say anything to my mom, but then my other brother broke the ice by teasing my mom about getting juggling balls for his gift.. we were all dying laughing by the end of the night.. when my brothers get going they're kind of a 2-man comedy show.. Anyway, my mom still gets razzed about that gift to this day.. She took it all in good stride and shakes her head, wondering why she ever got my totally uncoordinated brother a juggling set..

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